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Linking links: a plea for help

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So I'm finding that a lot of what I want to archive and look over in the long term is annotated links. I want to share these with all twenty of you who read my blog, but more importantly, with the few hundred people I know on facebook.

Here's the rub: facebook's links are nice and tidy to add, and all my friends see them, but searching, browsing, cataloging, and re-extracting those links is not good (or I haven't found out how). My preferred external link-grabber is del.icio.us (I'm old-school), but its integration with facebook appears to be inconsistent, plus it doesn't inject its content into the "links" stream in fb, as far as I can tell.

So my request: does anyone know of one of these:

  • a better way of manipulating or extracting or syncing facebook links?
  • a delicious-like link service with better facebook integration?
  • some other solution that simultaneously posts a link to fb and delicious (or another nice third-party link service)?

First world problem, yeah, but it's been annoying me for a while.


The one I know of is Kutano

My friend Sam Ladner (@sladner) wasn't happy with Delicious, tried Kutano, she still didn't fully like it, but my friend @EricaHargreave has tried Kutano and so has @JonJennings and both of them swear by it. So take it with a grain of salt, but it appears Kutano is the way to go when it comes to annotated bookmarks.

Merry New Year! ;)

Thanks for the suggestion.

Thanks for the suggestion. Kutano gets an automatic -1 for not working in Safari, but I'm still going to try it out.

You'll regret putting stuff

You'll regret putting stuff in Facebook in the future when it's no longer the cool place to be. It's a roach motel as far as I'm concerned.

Just so, more or less.

Just so, more or less. Facebook works for me as an aggregator my friends like to use. That's why this request.

The rule of thumb is to write stuff in spaces I trust (ie, post on my own blog; use a link-service like delicious that has features like exportable links), and use interfaces to fb to sync it into that stuff. So my posts here appear as "notes" in my fb account, and ideally I'll find a link service I can use that keeps the link in that service, but pushes it into fb's "links" service.

It's surely not true for everyone, but I believe that my posts here have elicited more comments in their reposted-on-facebook form than in the comments here. And comment spam doesn't exist in facebook-land, while out here in the real world (er...), I've got a whole class of comments (recent example) where I can't even personally decide whether it deserves to remain on the site or not.

I think you're heading down

I think you're heading down a wrong path when you talk of "facebook links" or "delicious-like" service. There are just links, pieces of data. Organizing them is easiest locally, really; i.e. as browser bookmarks or some link manager program (really, just a database).

The other thing you seek is a fool's quest. There's not going to be any convenient nor consistent way of integrating/injecting/syncing/multi-publishing links (nor any other type of data, e.g. writing, pictures, lists of hobbies or favourite movies, etc.) any time soon. Because for all their talk of sharing/networking/the social, the various "social network" sites are all gated communities, walled gardens. They make it easy enough to upload stuff from your local disk and publishing it as a web page on their site, but as for pulling stuff already on another site (e.g. photos from Flickr to Facebook, profiles from Friendster to MySpace), or simultaneous publishing, or syncing, or merging, forget getting it from the big sites themselves. These first-world problems are deliberate; they're not intended to have solutions. Certainly, there's no real *technical* reasons why they couldn't be done, and quite easily, if the sites themselves wanted. But they don't.

The go-betweening (for very narrow, specific pieces of info on specific sites, e.g. status updates of Twitter and Facebook) is usually offered by third-parties. Now you've got the security issue of giving *two* of your site passwords to some small, little-known third party.

Apart from all that, pushing things from one type of site into another is a bad idea anyway. As we learned from Ghostbusters, don't cross the streams.